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To PPF or not

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#1 ·
Finally picking up my C2 base on Saturday....2 year wait lol
Had to endure the price hikes but still excited to get it!!
Had a couple of Porsches before and never bothered with ppf so might have been lucky with only minor chips.
Have always had ceramic coating and will again.
Just curious whether many others 'risk' the lack of the film?
Any experiences really welcome as I need to make my mind up soon
Many Thanks in advance
 
#4 ·
Congratulations @Computerglitch! 🥂 Your patience will be rewarded but that 992 is a chip magnet and I strongly suggest to PPF. At least partially. The factory film over the wheel arch is useless. I had the PPF (full trunk, front bumper, wings, mirors and rocker panels) AND ceramic coating done on top.

Bottom line, PPF ASAP! 😅

Drive safe!
Thanks for advice
Still getting quotes and want to be sure its a proper job...seen a few where the edges are visible which I really hate lol
 
#6 ·
I drove my new car home from the dealership to get the PPF installed at my preferred detailer. I got a big rock chip dead centre in the middle of the hood . :mad:

The roads I drive seem to have a lot of small stones. Every used 911 that I looked at was peppered with stone chips, especially on the rear quarters. Protection in that area is even more important than the front IMHO.

I plan to keep this car and it was well worth a couple thousand dollars to me to keep it looking new.
 
#48 ·
I feel your pain I picked up my blue 911 it was perfect no chips etc. Brought it home after a week started counting the white chips on the hood from road construction sand. I got the hood xpel film and now taking it back to do the front bumper and rear quarters. Kills me to buy a prestine 911 and within a week it jas chips. I wish someone would have told me aboit the xpel film I would have had the car flat bedded to have it done. I went from having silver 911’s to a dark blue. The silver never showed any road rash. Live and learn
 
#7 ·
Much depends on a persons driving habits , where he lives , and the talent if his detailer . I know people in northern pothole cities that have gotten a chip on the first day driving it to the PFF installer . It will never look the same as a bare paint. It also wont stop a boulder thats falling from a.mountain ,

My 992 is the first car that I PPF . I think I did it more because I waited a year and felt the car was irreplaceable at the time I got it . I dont drive in commuter traffic when trucks are plentiful . I do most of my driving at night when traffic is light .

There are some extremely positive things with PPF though . This was the best but the pics may be gone . The guy had his Gt3 keyed . He was devastated . The pics at that time looked like doomsday . When they took off the PPF the car was blemish free !!! Unf*knbelievable - car keyed - 6SpeedOnline - Porsche Forum and Luxury Car Resource

One the other hand .. take a look at this scratch . It looks like a zipper rubbed it. It was a cold day and I parked to next to a disabled spot in an elderly region . I have a feeling an oldefsperson with a jacket leaned on it to gain balance . I have no idea how else ,. I=My detailer told me "dont worry , I got this " . He did a perfect job . Noticed I smudged it while freaking out over it . He took care of all, of it ,

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#8 ·
OMG!!
Id have been devastated just with the torn film let alone a scratch to the paintwork!!
Got to make my mind up today really.....had a lot of private advice saying save the money lol
front cover seems favourite with cc on that and rest , at the moment. Just seems so expensive!!
 
#13 ·
Thanks for all your help guys. Ive decided to go for just The ceramic coating afterall 🤔 Ive had my taycan for 18months ….with the tiniest chip in the bonnet and nothing else. I’ll probably drive the 911 even less so going to risk it.
i might only keep the car until the hybrid is out!!
Cheers again
 
#28 ·
Many thanks for all The help guys. I decided on The ceramic coating and not The ppf. I hope i dont regret it. Unfortunatly Porsche increased my my build Price from £98k to £106k (despite waiting for 2 years!)……so budget was blown😆
The car is quite honestly awesome , so really glad i didnt cancel. Mine is a base 992 and cant imagine needing anymore power/speed…..but i digress 😂
Thanks again everyone
 
#32 ·
Reply: Here in SoCal a complete PPF on a new Porsche Ferrari etc starts at $8000
Most good shops will not take a car that has been ceramic coated They want it virgin right off the ship without even wax on it as with my Turbo S Lightweight
 
#33 ·
Wow that is expensive. All good places would do a thorough cleaning and a some correction before putting the film on where needed. Sure its what they prefer if it’s brand new but it’s doesn’t have to be. I’ve had Excel on mine when my car was new 1 year ago and it cost 5.5 K AUS. So if they want 8K US. I would expect them to be doing the work and perfection. Are they removing things like badges and Mirrors etc for seamless coverage?
 
#37 ·
I always apply PPF to my vehicles, and I used to apply PPF all around. Now, I just do the full front, including the pillars and the Sideview mirrors.

Then, I usually apply a good quality ceramic around the whole vehicle including on an inside the wheels, in order to repel break dust on the cars with steel brakes.

Hi then, make sure that I use a good quality PPF and ceramic detailer on a regular basis, in order to preserve the hydrophobicity of the surface of the vehicle.

I usually end up selling my vehicles after 2 to 3 years for at least $20,000 more than similar vehicles get simply because of the unbelievably good quality of my paint - so financially, it has always been worth it for me.
 
#38 ·
I always apply PPF to my vehicles, and I used to apply PPF all around. Now, I just do the full front, including the pillars and the Sideview mirrors.

Then, I usually apply a good quality ceramic around the whole vehicle including on an inside the wheels, in order to repel break dust on the cars with steel brakes.

Hi then, make sure that I use a good quality PPF and ceramic detailer on a regular basis, in order to preserve the hydrophobicity of the surface of the vehicle.

I usually end up selling my vehicles after 2 to 3 years for at least $20,000 more than similar vehicles get simply because of the unbelievably good quality of my paint - so financially, it has always been worth it for me.
It’s TOTALLY worth the extra coin. Couldn’t agree more.
 
#41 ·
When I PPF'd my car, the installer said they wouldn't install over the front headlights due to the curvature. Did anyone get PPF installed over their head lights, and if so, how is the install holding up? What brand film was used?
 
#43 ·
I have had my PPF on my headlights on my 2022 911 Turbo, my wife’s 2022 Cayenne and our 2023 Macan GTS since they were brand new. The dealerships did 2 vehicles but I took the Macan to a dedicated PPF Shop because that dealer did not have PPF expertise in house.

I had the same questions as you - ie. does the PPF cause delamination of the headlights if it is ever removed? Simple answer: no - not if removed by a proper shop with the proper technique.

Sounds like you did not have an interaction with an experienced pro. You should try a better shop, and they will attach the ppf to the headlights for you.
 
#45 ·
I have had my PPF on my headlights on my 2022 911 Turbo, my wife’s 2022 Cayenne and our 2023 Macan GTS since they were brand new. The dealerships did 2 vehicles but I took the Macan to a dedicated PPF Shop because that dealer did not have PPF expertise in house.

I had the same questions as you - ie. does the PPF cause delamination of the headlights if it is ever removed? Simple answer: no - not if removed by a proper shop with the proper technique.

Sounds like you did not have an interaction with an experienced pro. You should try a better shop, and they will attach the ppf to the headlights for you.
That is great to know! I will look into it. Thanks!
 
#51 ·
Skip the factory wrap. Find a reputable pro in your area that hopefully does wrap,tint, and ceramics under one roof; in particular one that has done a lot of Porsches! Set up appointment before taking delivery of your car. Take your car yourself to wrap shop as soon as possible. Recommend wrapping whole car, including leading edges of mirrors and headlights. Consider double wrap on hips in front of rear wheels. I missed that tip and will do it next time around.Have the ceramics done over entire wrap. Ceramic will close off ends of wrap and keep contaminants out and eliminate edge peel. If possible, have brake calipers and wheels done with ceramics as well. I have black RS Spyder wheels with steels-still have dust, but easy to clean (relatively). Window tint is at your personal discretion. Ceramic perhaps for interior heat reduction? Ceramics provide hard weather barrier, wrap flexible and somewhat self-healing secondary barrier to absorb strikes better. Protect your expenditure on the vehicle. You will be happy with the look. Car practically hoses clean. As everyone here knows, your 992 WILL get hit no matter how careful you are!
 
#52 ·
Neither ceramic nor PPF nor both will fend off any hit. I accidentally let my Macan rear passenger door gently impact my 911 Turbo S passenger door and now need removal of 911 PPF piece on door, dent repair, maybe touch up ( hard to tell as yet), new PPF, and new ceramic. Who knew how weak the 911 metal is in that area. Certainly i ruined my own day and have some hassle ahead. And the Macan is a tank.