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I am approaching my 50th birthday so I decided to finally pull the trigger on a Porsche 911. I always wanted a Cab so that's what I'm going with. My basic question is whether it is worth paying more for a Carrera S over the base Carrera? Of course I would love the extra power, but don't know when or how often I would even need it.

Thanks for any insights. Btw, I think I'm going with the GT Silver with black top. Also I think I must get the Sports Chrono package right?

Hello Doc and welcome to the Forum! You will have as many answers to your questions as you have members since it all comes down to a personnal decision (especially on colors!). 😅

I'm also a cab guy, so I completely support your decision. Others will not for many good reasons. For instance, the cab might not be quite as quick as the coupe, but with the wind in your hair and engine note in your ears, it feels every bit as exciting. I also love the "hump" on the cab while others think "It looks like some sort of bulbous, ass-heavy insect"! (Motortrend 2019) LOL!

I went from a base Boxster to my first 911 and the base Carrera would've been plenty for me. MORE power is not necessarily better! But the base doesn't come with stick so I had to get the S model in order to have my manual transmission. Now that I have the 992 S cab I don't regret it a bit. It does have more power, it does have larger and better brakes, and the differential is far and away superior ((PTV+ = Brake application + Electronic Locking Differential).

I think it boils down to if you want a manual transmission vs. PDK. C2 is plenty fast / comfortable. Ideally, you should drive both back to back a couple of times but these days are gone.
If you have the money, get the S. If you don't, get the Base and you will be very happy!!!

 

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I forgot. Happy 50th!

 

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Thanks! It is giving me a great excuse to get a 911! I can't wait.

Enjoy the process and have fun with the configurator. He will be your best friend for a while. And don’t overspec. Get just what you need and nothing more. There are so many standard options on the current gen 911 that you can get this car with almost NO options (not at all) and you would still be getting a magnificent car that will be just as much fun to own and drive than a car with 50K worth of options. Configure your car to your own taste and your needs not the next owners.

My worry, like @yrralis1 pointed out, is the present waiting period. My 992 was supposed to be my 60th Bday present and almost ended up being my 62nd! I waited almost 18 months after making my deposit and that was in January 2021! So make your deposit NOW! You will have all the time in the world to spec the perfect 911 for you!

Good luck!

 

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I’m turning 50 later this year as well and have started the “process” of looking into a 911. I am turned off by how high the prices have gone from pre-covid…but like you… you only live once and turning 50 is a nice time to move up to a 911.

I am also considering a cab, but I want a stick..which means having to go to an S model..pricing for an S cab plus my dealer’s 20-25k markup puts the car at a pretty heavy premium. I have a buddy who bought a super low mileage CPO 991.1 TURBO for 120k just a few years ago. Now that barely gets you a CPO base.. 🤑

Happy Birthday to us. It is a good problem to have to be “worried” about how much to spend on your new 911. . No one will feel sorry for us. Ha!

Not only they won’t feel sorry for us but the Canadian government is introducing a new luxury tax that should take effect Sept 1 and apply to deliveries and imports into Canada on or after that date.

This tax is set to apply to new cars and aircraft with a retail sales price over $100,000 CAD and to boats over $250,000. It will be calculated at the lesser of 20% of the value above a set threshold ($100,000 for cars and personal aircraft, and $250,000 for boats) and 10% of the full value of the item subjected to tax.

It was close but I just made it! 🥵

 

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Wow. My configurator app must be very old.
when I look at it
Base cab 118,900
S cab 126,200

Base cab 118K
C4 cab 126K
C2S cab 135K

It's worse in CAD!!!! 😛

 

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You know my feeling on it. If buying a coupe i I would want a stripped base car . It’s buying a cab I would go for the S. Given the price of a new S and what’s offered I would head right over to a GTS coupe. I haven’t dabbled on the new pricing but I have a feeling I can get it at the 150s with essentials

I don't get it Larry. You have to compare apples with apples. Or cabs with cabs. You say that If I want a cab, I should get the S. Fine, that's what I did. But then you add "given the price of a new S" you would head right over to a GTS coupe!?! But it's NOT a cab Larry!

So then, should it be a GTS cab?

OK, I got it, My bad. You mean if you were condering a 911 S coupe you would go and spring for the GTS...coupe! 😅

 

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You are limited to PDK (automatic) transmission so if you prefer a manual you have to opt for a Carrera S. PASM is not available as well. But despite those issues a basic Carrera is still a good value.

Agreed! But I believe that every 911 now comes standard with PASM (see configurator standard options). You might be referring to the 10 mm lowering that is optional on the Carrera S but not available on the base and that is annoyingly called "PASM Sport Suspension" (10 mm lowered).

One thing the base doesn't have is Porsche Torque Vectoring (PTV), not even as an option. Neither option is a dealbreaker IMO unless you plan to track or push the car to the limit in which case PTV could be important for those rear wheels. At least that's what I understood during those long months or reading while waiting.

 

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Sometimes Christ lead to cross shopping. When I spec a cayman in 911 territory its right there . In fact when I see someone build a Macan that’s in Carrera S territory I’m there too. 992 cab 1can price rite a GTS coupe territory. Not only that but it will not fetch as much at resale and face competing with 2 more years of production on the used market . Now if he really loves that cab and it has to be But I start looking at prices and at some point I get priced out because of something else that looks more tractive there(.

When you bought your car it was a different price scale and there were no GTS slots. In fact my first post said to see what they can offer . All of this discussion may become decided by what the dealership can offer him

Agreed! But I had to read your first paragraph a couple of times. Especially the last sentence. LOL! 😅

 

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Exactly. Initially I was looking at a second cab, 992 4s cab. But once I realized the price was GTS category, it made me re-think it. No need for two cabs and GTS is a lot of car.

Since I only have ONE 911😉, I think the cab offers the best of both worlds. With the top up it’s remarkably quiet, has the shape and drives like a coupe. Of course, when that first sunny, somewhat warm day comes along, down comes the top, and I remember why I bought a cab in the first place. Plus, I'm having a hard time resisting this:

 

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Beautiful sight! I like the curb clearence😝
Btw I love my base cab and the options you mentioned

Yes, that’s how we avoid « curb rash » in Montreal! 😂🤪

 

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I found this post on Reddit dated Feb 2022. This guy is from Dallas-Fort Worth Area. Seems like things will get worse before getting any better.

Advice on finding Porsche 992 S Allocation


« Just started the process of shopping for an allocation to build a 2023 911 Carrera S. Over last two days I've contacted the two Porsche Dealerships closest to me and was told I could be added to a list with a 2-3 years wait. After initial responses, they now starting to become unresponsive to my emails ( which to some extent I understand). I wanted to seek any advice on what I can do here if I'm interested to get an allocation for a next year build? Additionally I'm in the Dallas-Fort Worth Area if that's helpful. »

Not very encouraging for those pulling the trigger now! 🥵

 

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I’m thinking of our new member @DoctorFreeze. Maybe he will get his base model a little faster but the waiting period for a 911 seems to be 2-3 years now!!! 😏 Wonder what his dealer told him.

Macan and Cayenne allocations are easier to get. My SA recently said less than a year. After the 911 saga, I decided to keep my Macan S MY17 a little longer. Since I split my mileage on 2 cars during the year, the Macan only has 37K miles on it and runs perfectly. The next one will probably be electric. 😱

 

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Nice! I go get my beer ONE bottle at a time now! 🤪🤣

 

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That is a beautiful car. Even though I can't afford an S for my "entry-level" Porsche 911, I think my base cab will look just as good. Oh, I'm also seriously considering a change of color from GT Silver to Gentian Metallic Blue. Your photo has reinforced my potential change. I do have one question for everyone, should I spring for the Sports Exhaust package or not?? It's another $3k! 😭

PSE for sure. As for color, there is no right or wrong answer, it's a very personnal choice. Now I feel some responsability in your color change! LOL! 😅

I needed a change from the classic colors. Gentian is a chameleon colour with tons of character. It's part of the charm and why I love it. I've written on this Forum that GB seems to have 50 shades of blue, going from a royal blue to a darker blue and even looks purply in some sorts of lights (that scares a lot of people)! Well, almost all dark blues will show some amount of purple under certain lighting conditions, especially artificial light. I don't mind the purple tones and they aren't that noticeable in regular, daily life. The gentian is also less common. I went even further by picking the light grey interior. LOL!

You will find tons of pics of Gentian on RL and the web (I have my unveiling pics on another thread "Eagle has landed"). Have fun and maybe ask your SA to give you a shout when he has one at the dealership so you can see it "in person".

But we all agree that the 911 looks great in any color (but the jury is still out on Racing Yellow).

 

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« Up North » July 1st is Canada Day, so RED AND WHITE are in order today! Cheers!

 

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I placed my order in early June and just got a call yesterday that I'm next in line for a slot (I assume that is the same as an "allocation?") My SA originally told me it could take as long as a year to get my Porsche when I first ordered it last month, but he seemed confident it will be less than that given they cleared a good batch recently.

A year sounds very very good right now. The problem is that every 911 model has its own queue and it will all depend on what your dealer gets. You can be next in line for a base 992 cab but if the dealer gets some S, GTS, Turbo or even base coupe allocations but no base cab slots, the wait continues. Fingers crossed that you get your allocation ASAP. 🤞

 

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I just checked on the wait for a 718 and it’s 1.5 years.

Bobby, did you ask for the 911? Either case, I honestly think it’s a wait and see game. With production still severely limited, dealers will not be getting the total number of allocations they expect. So, none of them really know anything. Mine has decided not to give any timeline at all instead of promising something he doesn’t control.

 

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My new friends... I'm happy to report that I heard from my SA today and they have an allocation ("commission number") for my Porsche 911 C2 Cab! For those curious, it took about 2.5 months from my $2.5k downpayment to get a spot in line to this great day. Now, the hard part... deciding on my specs before the "freeze date" of November 1. At least the journey has started and could possibly have delivery by the end of the year. That would be the best Christmas present ever.

Wow! So HAPPY for you! 2.5 months must be a record! About your specs, here is what I wrote earlier (love quoting myself! LOL!):

"Don’t overspec. Get just what you need and nothing more. There are so many standard options on the current gen 911 that you can get this car with almost NO options (not at all) and you would still be getting a magnificent car that will be just as much fun to own and drive than a car with 50K worth of options. Configure your car to your own taste and your needs not the next owners."

Congrats! 🥂

 

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Thanks... you and Bobby have offered consistent, great advice so far. This is a big investment so I appreciate you both and the entire forum on my first Porsche purchase journey. I turn 55 in 2023 so this will be a great milestone gift.

Hey Doc, you were supposed to be "approaching 50" when you ordered your 992 in June! Better get that 911 quick cause you're aging fast! LOL!

 

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Congratulations and Happy Birthday. For a double check on your options, I found that Nick Murray on You Tube (Porsche 911 - 992 Every Option Configuration Reviewed Part 1 and Part 2) had a great option video for the 992. Enjoy the Journey!

Those vids helped me a lot while I was going through the Porsche configurator. This is his last video on the 992 2023 updates. I like Nick but don't agree with him about the last year of the 992.1 being a "potential" disappointment. I would think that the first year of any update would have some "bugs" to fix. Anyways, he's always entertaining. Even in his plane or helicopter.