[23109VC]

I am approaching my 50th birthday so I decided to finally pull the trigger on a Porsche 911. I always wanted a Cab so that's what I'm going with. My basic question is whether it is worth paying more for a Carrera S over the base Carrera? Of course I would love the extra power, but don't know when or how often I would even need it.

Thanks for any insights. Btw, I think I'm going with the GT Silver with black top. Also I think I must get the Sports Chrono package right?

I’m turning 50 later this year as well and have started the “process” of looking into a 911. I am turned off by how high the prices have gone from pre-covid…but like you… you only live once and turning 50 is a nice time to move up to a 911.

I am also considering a cab, but I want a stick..which means having to go to an S model..pricing for an S cab plus my dealer’s 20-25k markup puts the car at a pretty heavy premium. I have a buddy who bought a super low mileage CPO 991.1 TURBO for 120k just a few years ago. Now that barely gets you a CPO base.. 🤑

Happy Birthday to us. It is a good problem to have to be “worried” about how much to spend on your new 911. . No one will feel sorry for us. Ha!

 

[DoctorFreeze]

I’m turning 50 later this year as well and have started the “process” of looking into a 911. I am turned off by how high the prices have gone from pre-covid…but like you… you only live once and turning 50 is a nice time to move up to a 911.

I am also considering a cab, but I want a stick..which means having to go to an S model..pricing for an S cab plus my dealer’s 20-25k markup puts the car at a pretty heavy premium. I have a buddy who bought a super low mileage CPO 991.1 TURBO for 120k just a few years ago. Now that barely gets you a CPO base.. 🤑

Happy Birthday to us. It is a good problem to have to be “worried” about how much to spend on your new 911. . No one will feel sorry for us. Ha!

Yes, happy birthday to us. We deserve a 911 right?! It is the most iconic sports car in the history of automobiles in my humble opinion. We could wait until we are older, but I would have fewer years to enjoy it!

 

[LessKrazy1]

50 is a perfect time to get your 911. Not too young (prevents from getting speeding fines) and not too old ( prevents you from getting hurt getting in and out of it)😜

 

[CH61]

I’m turning 50 later this year as well and have started the “process” of looking into a 911. I am turned off by how high the prices have gone from pre-covid…but like you… you only live once and turning 50 is a nice time to move up to a 911.

I am also considering a cab, but I want a stick..which means having to go to an S model..pricing for an S cab plus my dealer’s 20-25k markup puts the car at a pretty heavy premium. I have a buddy who bought a super low mileage CPO 991.1 TURBO for 120k just a few years ago. Now that barely gets you a CPO base.. 🤑

Happy Birthday to us. It is a good problem to have to be “worried” about how much to spend on your new 911. . No one will feel sorry for us. Ha!

Not only they won’t feel sorry for us but the Canadian government is introducing a new luxury tax that should take effect Sept 1 and apply to deliveries and imports into Canada on or after that date.

This tax is set to apply to new cars and aircraft with a retail sales price over $100,000 CAD and to boats over $250,000. It will be calculated at the lesser of 20% of the value above a set threshold ($100,000 for cars and personal aircraft, and $250,000 for boats) and 10% of the full value of the item subjected to tax.

It was close but I just made it! 🥵

 

[23109VC]

We don’t have that in the US. But we get big dealer markups. 20-30k easily on any 911 allocation.

 

[yrralis1]

Definitely more bells and whistles than I am willing to spend on my first "entry level" Porsche 911. I am basically going in for the cheapest cab 911 I can buy, but feel I needed to add the sports chrono package and Bose sounds system. That's pretty much it for mine. Oh, I did add the ventilated front seats since I live in the hot South!

My first 911 had ZERO options . It had manual seats, little wheels , non metallic color. leatherette . and even worse I could not afford it . I loved that car . I still think of the day I bought it . I wasn't 50. I was 34. My local dealership had a different t manager then more recent years and I thought I could never have the car . I reached out to a dealership 50 minutes away and then salesman (no longer there) said "come look" followed by "lets talk" . I got there and there was that white car just sitting there . He handed me the key and said "go drive it" . He didn't even want to come with me but instead said "I'll get your trade appraised ". I had never been to that area and I got lost on my test drive . I came back with 30 extra miles on the car and he joked with me and said " I guess you have to buy it now" . Then we talked . He got me to empty my bank account when we were still apart .I told him " I want to buy it but I really have no more money" . I got up to leave and he said " no .. dont go" . I remember driving it home . I felt like king of the highway . This launched the beginning of a journey into madness .

So 30 years later here I am .I am older and the cars still cream my account every time but I keep going !! There is just no other material thing I own that makes me feel this way . I have a house but I am not a house person . I have my fathers cherished watches but I dont even wear them . I never bought myself one . I dont have a fancy TV or expensive furniture . I dont even like landscaping and never garden . The car is EVERYTHING .

Here's the snag you will face. For starters Porsche staggers their prices . Take an example like 18 way seats . On a base car they are #3620. On the S its #3260. On a GTS they are 2820. On. aTurbo its $1150. and on a Turbo S its free. Almost every option becomes like this and it becomes like trying to figure out Rubik’s Cube . The nicer the option the more it costs on the cheaper trim and the higher its proportion eats into that final price . Its very easy to price a base car into S territory and take the S to GTS territory . Porsche will have you climbing that ladder . Keep in mind you face this on top of 10 guys who want the same build slot . Every dealership has its own policy . There are some who wil sell to the highest buyer . Mine won't . They know they will lose long term loyal buyers and the one shot deal will just move on the next time .

I tinkered with the configurator . I got a base cab done as low as the low 130's .

 

[Sousa Faria]

My first 911 had ZERO options . It had manual seats, little wheels , non metallic color. leatherette . and even worse I could not afford it . I loved that car . I still think of the day I bought it . I wasn't 50. I was 34. My local dealership had a different t manager then more recent years and I thought I could never have the car . I reached out to a dealership 50 minutes away and then salesman (no longer there) said "come look" followed by "lets talk" . I got there and there was that white car just sitting there . He handed me the key and said "go drive it" . He didn't even want to come with me but instead said "I'll get your trade appraised ". I had never been to that area and I got lost on my test drive . I came back with 30 extra miles on the car and he joked with me and said " I guess you have to buy it now" . Then we talked . He got me to empty my bank account when we were still apart .I told him " I want to buy it but I really have no more money" . I got up to leave and he said " no .. dont go" . I remember driving it home . I felt like king of the highway . This launched the beginning of a journey into madness .

So 30 years later here I am .I am older and the cars still cream my account every time but I keep going !! There is just no other material thing I own that makes me feel this way . I have a house but I am not a house person . I have my fathers cherished watches but I dont even wear them . I never bought myself one . I dont have a fancy TV or expensive furniture . I dont even like landscaping and never garden . The car is EVERYTHING .

Here's the snag you will face. For starters Porsche staggers their prices . Take an example like 18 way seats . On a base car they are #3620. On the S its #3260. On a GTS they are 2820. On. aTurbo its $1150. and on a Turbo S its free. Almost every option becomes like this and it becomes like trying to figure out Rubik’s Cube . The nicer the option the more it costs on the cheaper trim and the higher its proportion eats into that final price . Its very easy to price a base car into S territory and take the S to GTS territory . Porsche will have you climbing that ladder . Keep in mind you face this on top of 10 guys who want the same build slot . Every dealership has its own policy . There are some who wil sell to the highest buyer . Mine won't . They know they will lose long term loyal buyers and the one shot deal will just move on the next time .

I tinkered with the configurator . I got a base cab done as low as the low 130's .

Nice story.

I fell in love for the car since my 12 years old but only with almost 50 I could have one

 

[BobbyG]

I am approaching my 50th birthday so I decided to finally pull the trigger on a Porsche 911. I always wanted a Cab so that's what I'm going with. My basic question is whether it is worth paying more for a Carrera S over the base Carrera? Of course I would love the extra power, but don't know when or how often I would even need it.

Thanks for any insights. Btw, I think I'm going with the GT Silver with black top. Also I think I must get the Sports Chrono package right?

my decision for the s was easy because I wanted a manual transmission. You’ll make the right choice.

 

[LessKrazy1]

Another way to look at it is. If you can gather 120k for a base then you can surly scrape another 7k for the S.
Borrow from your Mother in law😜

 

[Danbassbone]

I am approaching my 50th birthday so I decided to finally pull the trigger on a Porsche 911. I always wanted a Cab so that's what I'm going with. My basic question is whether it is worth paying more for a Carrera S over the base Carrera? Of course I would love the extra power, but don't know when or how often I would even need it.

Thanks for any insights. Btw, I think I'm going with the GT Silver with black top. Also I think I must get the Sports Chrono package right?

You are limited to PDK (automatic) transmission so if you prefer a manual you have to opt for a Carrera S. PASM is not available as well. But despite those issues a basic Carrera is still a good value.

 

[yrralis1]

Another way to look at it is. If you can gather 120k for a base then you can surly scrape another 7k for the S.
Borrow from your Mother in law😜

It’s $17,000 more to go from the base 911 to an S. Porsche change the pricing. Are used to be 14.

 

[LessKrazy1]

It’s $17,000 more to go from the base 911 to an S. Porsche change the pricing. Are used to be 14.

Wow. My configurator app must be very old.
when I look at it
Base cab 118,900
S cab 126,200

 

[CH61]

Wow. My configurator app must be very old.
when I look at it
Base cab 118,900
S cab 126,200

Base cab 118K
C4 cab 126K
C2S cab 135K

It's worse in CAD!!!! 😛

 

[LessKrazy1]

Wow. My configurator app must be very old.
when I look at it
Base cab 118,900
S cab 126,200

You are correct sir! I stand corrected

 

[yrralis1]

You are correct sir! I stand corrected

You know my feeling on it. If buying a coupe i I would want a stripped base car . It’s buying a cab I would go for the S. Given the price of a new S and what’s offered I would head right over to a GTS coupe. I haven’t dabbled on the new pricing but I have a feeling I can get it at the 150s with essentials

 

[CH61]

You know my feeling on it. If buying a coupe i I would want a stripped base car . It’s buying a cab I would go for the S. Given the price of a new S and what’s offered I would head right over to a GTS coupe. I haven’t dabbled on the new pricing but I have a feeling I can get it at the 150s with essentials

I don't get it Larry. You have to compare apples with apples. Or cabs with cabs. You say that If I want a cab, I should get the S. Fine, that's what I did. But then you add "given the price of a new S" you would head right over to a GTS coupe!?! But it's NOT a cab Larry!

So then, should it be a GTS cab?

OK, I got it, My bad. You mean if you were condering a 911 S coupe you would go and spring for the GTS...coupe! 😅

 

[CH61]

You are limited to PDK (automatic) transmission so if you prefer a manual you have to opt for a Carrera S. PASM is not available as well. But despite those issues a basic Carrera is still a good value.

Agreed! But I believe that every 911 now comes standard with PASM (see configurator standard options). You might be referring to the 10 mm lowering that is optional on the Carrera S but not available on the base and that is annoyingly called "PASM Sport Suspension" (10 mm lowered).

One thing the base doesn't have is Porsche Torque Vectoring (PTV), not even as an option. Neither option is a dealbreaker IMO unless you plan to track or push the car to the limit in which case PTV could be important for those rear wheels. At least that's what I understood during those long months or reading while waiting.

 

[yrralis1]

I don't get it Larry. You have to compare apples with apples. Or cabs with cabs. You say that If I want a cab, I should get the S. Fine, that's what I did. But then you add "given the price of a new S" you would head right over to a GTS coupe!?! But it's NOT a cab Larry!

So then, should it be a GTS cab?

OK, I got it, My bad. You mean if you were condering a 911 S coupe you would go and spring for the GTS...coupe! 😅

Sometimes cars prices lead to cross shopping. When I spec a cayman in 911 territory its right there . In fact when I see someone build a Macan that’s in Carrera S territory I’m there too. A 992 S Cab can price in GTS coupe territory. Not only that but it will not fetch as much at resale and face competing with 2 more years of production on the used market . Now if he really loves that cab and it has to be But I start looking at prices and at some point I get priced out. 160K for any type of S is a lot of money !!

When you bought your car it was a different price scale and there were no GTS slots. In fact my first post said to see what they can offer . All of this discussion may become decided by what the dealership can offer him

 

[CH61]

Sometimes Christ lead to cross shopping. When I spec a cayman in 911 territory its right there . In fact when I see someone build a Macan that’s in Carrera S territory I’m there too. 992 cab 1can price rite a GTS coupe territory. Not only that but it will not fetch as much at resale and face competing with 2 more years of production on the used market . Now if he really loves that cab and it has to be But I start looking at prices and at some point I get priced out because of something else that looks more tractive there(.

When you bought your car it was a different price scale and there were no GTS slots. In fact my first post said to see what they can offer . All of this discussion may become decided by what the dealership can offer him

Agreed! But I had to read your first paragraph a couple of times. Especially the last sentence. LOL! 😅

 

[yrralis1]

Agreed! But I had to read your first paragraph a couple of times. Especially the last sentence. LOL! 😅

Sheesh !! Haha !! I was not only using dictation but in my black car in the heat with no reading glasses . The phone works poorly in the heat and can sometimes even shut down . Its that hot here and I am that blind . Thanks for the heads up !!