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Hello from Switzerland,
last year after many months of waiting I finally received my Irish Green Turbo S that I had personally configured in Zuffenhausen the previous year. Having other Porsches, my diesel Macan being my daily driver, the 992 will have to wait until spring to hit the road again. Last year I only made roughly 3000 - very enjoyable - Kilometers.
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Marc said:
Hello from Switzerland,
last year after many months of waiting I finally received my Irish Green Turbo S that I had personally configured in Zuffenhausen the previous year. Having other Porsches, my diesel Macan being my daily driver, the 992 will have to wait until spring to hit the road again. Last year I only made roughly 3000 - very enjoyable - Kilometers.
Cheers, Marc
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Welcome to the Forum Marc and congratulations on your Turbo S! Beautiful combo.

I see you had the discipline to keep your driver’s licence after 3K km in that incredibly fast 911! LOL! Seriously, It’s an intimidating machine.

Can you share your driving experience so far. How do you find the AWD and do you miss the manual transmission?

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Welcome to the Forum Marc and congratulations on your Turbo S! Beautiful combo.

I see you had the discipline to keep your driver’s licence after 3K km in that incredibly fast 911! LOL! Seriously, It’s an intimidating machine.

Can you share your driving experience so far. How do you find the AWD and do you miss the manual transmission?

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Good day to you CH61.
Indeed the Turbo S is quite a fast machinery and honestly it is not easy to stay within legal limits, especially here in Switzerland where limits are low and fines high. But admittedly it is fun to drive. If I look at it more as a gran turismo for relaxed traveling with some safety reserve to overtake and for some spirited driving on open (aka nowhere to hide speed traps) roads from time to time, the turbo s package fits quite well.
Now, to be honest, I still have my 991.1 GTS 4 (GT-silver, coupé, 19K km) and if I wanted to or had to sell one of the two, I think I'd sell the turbo and keep the 991. After all, as you write, the turbo is quite an intimidating car. Then, the sound of the naturally aspirated 991.1 motor revving up to red line is nicer.
At present I am considering swapping the turbo for a 992 GT3 touring. Manual? No, I do like the PDK and I still have a 993 C2S (black, 60K km) manual for the true Porsche manual feeling. On a side note: These new 911 are getting bigger and bigger, too big in my opinion. When will this stop? A trend with all cars as it seems.
Anyhow, talking about PDK versus manual: what I do not like about my turbo is how to change from automatic to manual mode with the button behind the funny PDK lever on the center console. If e.g. I am in automatic, say 4th or 5th gear, and I see a nice stretch of road coming up I want to tackle in third, it is much easier done on the 'old' PDK as in my 991: one small move of the lever to the left, easily done without looking, change to third and it will stay there. On the other hand if I stay in automatic and downshift with the steering wheel paddle, it downshifts ok, but then tends to upshift as soon as I relax a bit - well before I want it to. On the turbo the M-button is not as easily reached - for me at least - without a quick glance, which should not be necessary. I think the PDK lever in the GT3 that looks like the manual ones are much better in that respect. I'll have to give it a try at some time.
Best, Marc
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Good day to you CH61.
Indeed the Turbo S is quite a fast machinery and honestly it is not easy to stay within legal limits, especially here in Switzerland where limits are low and fines high. But admittedly it is fun to drive. If I look at it more as a gran turismo for relaxed traveling with some safety reserve to overtake and for some spirited driving on open (aka nowhere to hide speed traps) roads from time to time, the turbo s package fits quite well.
Now, to be honest, I still have my 991.1 GTS 4 (GT-silver, coupé, 19K km) and if I wanted to or had to sell one of the two, I think I'd sell the turbo and keep the 991. After all, as you write, the turbo is quite an intimidating car. Then, the sound of the naturally aspirated 991.1 motor revving up to red line is nicer.
At present I am considering swapping the turbo for a 992 GT3 touring. Manual? No, I do like the PDK and I still have a 993 C2S (black, 60K km) manual for the true Porsche manual feeling. On a side note: These new 911 are getting bigger and bigger, too big in my opinion. When will this stop? A trend with all cars as it seems.
Anyhow, talking about PDK versus manual: what I do not like about my turbo is how to change from automatic to manual mode with the button behind the funny PDK lever on the center console. If e.g. I am in automatic, say 4th or 5th gear, and I see a nice stretch of road coming up I want to tackle in third, it is much easier done on the 'old' PDK as in my 991: one small move of the lever to the left, easily done without looking, change to third and it will stay there. On the other hand if I stay in automatic and downshift with the steering wheel paddle, it downshifts ok, but then tends to upshift as soon as I relax a bit - well before I want it to. On the turbo the M-button is not as easily reached - for me at least - without a quick glance, which should not be necessary. I think the PDK lever in the GT3 that looks like the manual ones are much better in that respect. I'll have to give it a try at some time.
Best, Marc
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Irish green with cognac espresso ? as for the touring I have a friend who started out by ordering a manual Gt3 Touring . He then changed it to PDK , took delivery, loved the car , and told me that the PDK is incredible in the Touring . This all changed with he bought a Turbo S Cab . Not only did he have two PDK cars but he felt that mated to the Turbo engine ruined it for the NA car . He found a CPO manual at a short distance from his area and started talking to that dealership. He now has the manual Touring and Turbo S Cab .
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Irish green with cognac espresso ? as for the touring I have a friend who started out by ordering a manual Gt3 Touring . He then changed it to PDK , took delivery, loved the car , and told me that the PDK is incredible in the Touring . This all changed with he bought a Turbo S Cab . Not only did he have two PDK cars but he felt that mated to the Turbo engine ruined it for the NA car . He found a CPO manual at a short distance from his area and started talking to that dealership. He now has the manual Touring and Turbo S Cab .
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Hey, welcome to the Forum and that is an incredible car! Congratulations and I LOVE my Manual transmission, enjoy every mile or Kilometer in your case!
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Good day to you CH61.
Indeed the Turbo S is quite a fast machinery and honestly it is not easy to stay within legal limits, especially here in Switzerland where limits are low and fines high. But admittedly it is fun to drive. If I look at it more as a gran turismo for relaxed traveling with some safety reserve to overtake and for some spirited driving on open (aka nowhere to hide speed traps) roads from time to time, the turbo s package fits quite well.
Now, to be honest, I still have my 991.1 GTS 4 (GT-silver, coupé, 19K km) and if I wanted to or had to sell one of the two, I think I'd sell the turbo and keep the 991. After all, as you write, the turbo is quite an intimidating car. Then, the sound of the naturally aspirated 991.1 motor revving up to red line is nicer.
At present I am considering swapping the turbo for a 992 GT3 touring. Manual? No, I do like the PDK and I still have a 993 C2S (black, 60K km) manual for the true Porsche manual feeling. On a side note: These new 911 are getting bigger and bigger, too big in my opinion. When will this stop? A trend with all cars as it seems.
Anyhow, talking about PDK versus manual: what I do not like about my turbo is how to change from automatic to manual mode with the button behind the funny PDK lever on the center console. If e.g. I am in automatic, say 4th or 5th gear, and I see a nice stretch of road coming up I want to tackle in third, it is much easier done on the 'old' PDK as in my 991: one small move of the lever to the left, easily done without looking, change to third and it will stay there. On the other hand if I stay in automatic and downshift with the steering wheel paddle, it downshifts ok, but then tends to upshift as soon as I relax a bit - well before I want it to. On the turbo the M-button is not as easily reached - for me at least - without a quick glance, which should not be necessary. I think the PDK lever in the GT3 that looks like the manual ones are much better in that respect. I'll have to give it a try at some time.
Best, Marc
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You're a lucky man Marc! First because you live in Switzerland ;) And second because you have the choice of a few 991s, each one with it's own characteristics. That's the beauty with Porsche, different generations, multiple trims and infinite configurations make each 911 "unique"! But what a shame you don't have a cab to enjoy the scenic roads of your beautiful country. Even if it's not "politically" correct for some, I just love the cabriolet. After our harsh winters in Canada, enjoying the open air in a 911 is just priceless. And since I had to put all my needs into one (including MT), I chose a 992 S cab...in Gentian Blue! Love it!

I have learned on this Forum that the GT3 was not a good daily driver and I can understand why. It's built for the track. The "touring" is a GT3 without the wing, right? So you would be going in a completey different direction if you swapped the Turbo S. If you did, i would definetely consider a manual transmission on the Touring.

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You're a lucky man Marc! First because you live in Switzerland ;) And second because you have the choice of a few 991s, each one with it's own characteristics. That's the beauty with Porsche, different generations, multiple trims and infinite configurations make each 911 "unique"! But what a shame you don't have a cab to enjoy the scenic roads of your beautiful country. Even if it's not "politically" correct for some, I just love the cabriolet. After our harsh winters in Canada, enjoying the open air in a 911 is just priceless. And since I had to put all my needs into one (including MT), I chose a 992 S cab...in Gentian Blue! Love it!

I have learned on this Forum that the GT3 was not a good daily driver and I can understand why. It's built for the track. The "touring" is a GT3 without the wing, right? So you would be going in a completey different direction if you swapped the Turbo S. If you did, i would definetely consider a manual transmission on the Touring.

Drive safe!
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Ah, first world problems... I definitely must try to get two Touring side by side for maybe half a day or so. But as I have put so much effort in configuring my Turbo in Zuffenhausen, I would very reluctantly give it up. And as I already have too many cars and too little space, adding yet another Porsche to my collection is not really an option. Although, as a retired museum curator I trend to collect things.
On a side note, I paid more or less exactly double for my 2022 Turbo S (chf 323K) as I did back in 2015 for my 991.1 (chf 160K) . This is getting a bit silly, no?
Thinking about an Audi R8 performance... love the sound of the na 10cylinder. But, I disgress... Have a nice day
Cheers, Marc
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Irish green with cognac espresso ? as for the touring I have a friend who started out by ordering a manual Gt3 Touring . He then changed it to PDK , took delivery, loved the car , and told me that the PDK is incredible in the Touring . This all changed with he bought a Turbo S Cab . Not only did he have two PDK cars but he felt that mated to the Turbo engine ruined it for the NA car . He found a CPO manual at a short distance from his area and started talking to that dealership. He now has the manual Touring and Turbo S Cab .
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You are right, I definitely should try to get two touring, one manual, one pdk side by side for maybe half a day or so. That won't be easy, these cars are rather rare and dealers only reluctantly lend them out for extended time. I did once drive a GT3 RS, but that was definitely too much race oriented.
On a side note, here's a picture from inside my diesel Macan, when my son and I came back from the Nürburgring and I let him drive. I love the German Autobahn (y)
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Ah, first world problems... I definitely must try to get two Touring side by side for maybe half a day or so. But as I have put so much effort in configuring my Turbo in Zuffenhausen, I would very reluctantly give it up. And as I already have too many cars and too little space, adding yet another Porsche to my collection is not really an option. Although, as a retired museum curator I trend to collect things.
On a side note, I paid more or less exactly double for my 2022 Turbo S (chf 323K) as I did back in 2015 for my 991.1 (chf 160K) . This is getting a bit silly, no?
Thinking about an Audi R8 performance... love the sound of the na 10cylinder. But, I disgress... Have a nice day
Cheers, Marc
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Better hurry because I believe this is the final year for Audi’s V-10–powered showpiece. Unfortunately, it might end up in a Museum! 😉 Just kidding but it’s definitely going to become a collectible and putting your hands on one even more expensive. That said, as much as I like the R8, I don’t see myself driving one daily. But if you collect cars, it’s going to become very desirable. Not politically correct with its gas guzzling V-10 but certainly attractive. Some would say seductive. LOL!
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Good day to you CH61.
Indeed the Turbo S is quite a fast machinery and honestly it is not easy to stay within legal limits, especially here in Switzerland where limits are low and fines high. But admittedly it is fun to drive. If I look at it more as a gran turismo for relaxed traveling with some safety reserve to overtake and for some spirited driving on open (aka nowhere to hide speed traps) roads from time to time, the turbo s package fits quite well.
Now, to be honest, I still have my 991.1 GTS 4 (GT-silver, coupé, 19K km) and if I wanted to or had to sell one of the two, I think I'd sell the turbo and keep the 991. After all, as you write, the turbo is quite an intimidating car. Then, the sound of the naturally aspirated 991.1 motor revving up to red line is nicer.
At present I am considering swapping the turbo for a 992 GT3 touring. Manual? No, I do like the PDK and I still have a 993 C2S (black, 60K km) manual for the true Porsche manual feeling. On a side note: These new 911 are getting bigger and bigger, too big in my opinion. When will this stop? A trend with all cars as it seems.
Anyhow, talking about PDK versus manual: what I do not like about my turbo is how to change from automatic to manual mode with the button behind the funny PDK lever on the center console. If e.g. I am in automatic, say 4th or 5th gear, and I see a nice stretch of road coming up I want to tackle in third, it is much easier done on the 'old' PDK as in my 991: one small move of the lever to the left, easily done without looking, change to third and it will stay there. On the other hand if I stay in automatic and downshift with the steering wheel paddle, it downshifts ok, but then tends to upshift as soon as I relax a bit - well before I want it to. On the turbo the M-button is not as easily reached - for me at least - without a quick glance, which should not be necessary. I think the PDK lever in the GT3 that looks like the manual ones are much better in that respect. I'll have to give it a try at some time.
Best, Marc
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Just took delivery of my 23 992 GT3 T with manual. Just finished the wrap PPf and ceramic coating. All i can say is this Porsche drives so different than any of my other Porsches. This car in manual is the best driving experience from my perspective.

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Just took delivery of my 23 992 GT3 T with manual. Just finished the wrap PPf and ceramic coating. All i can say is this Porsche drives so different than any of my other Porsches. This car in manual is the best driving experience from my perspective.
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Nice….I’ll agree with that assessment!
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Ah, first world problems... I definitely must try to get two Touring side by side for maybe half a day or so. But as I have put so much effort in configuring my Turbo in Zuffenhausen, I would very reluctantly give it up. And as I already have too many cars and too little space, adding yet another Porsche to my collection is not really an option. Although, as a retired museum curator I trend to collect things.
On a side note, I paid more or less exactly double for my 2022 Turbo S (chf 323K) as I did back in 2015 for my 991.1 (chf 160K) . This is getting a bit silly, no?
Thinking about an Audi R8 performance... love the sound of the na 10cylinder. But, I disgress... Have a nice day
Cheers, Marc
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First of all welcome Marc, and that Irish green is stunning! About 5 or 6 years ago i was fortunate enough to go on track in Mexico with an R8 then followed up with a 911. First time i have driver either. Did the R8 first. Then the 911. The minute i got into the 911 I knew it was for me, hands down. The R8 immediately felt bloated and sloppy and mind you i love the R8 as well. Fast forward to now and it's 3 months before mine arrives and i can't wait. Right in time for spring driving. Having said that, that V10 is hard to dismiss. Good luck in your choice as they're all good ones!
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