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CH61

Discussion Starter · Dec 1, 2021

I have a question regarding the PASM Sport suspension (Lowered 10 mm), an option that just about everybody gets but that I didn't check even if it's part of a "package" and very reasonably priced.. As you know, the PASM is standard on the 992 so that option is just for the 10 mm lowering. So the debate is about the cosmetic and the slight handling improvement vs the decrease in ride comfort. Is the difference in suspension travel worth it? "Everybody" seems to think so. I believe the car will still handle great and be a little more comfortable without the Sport Suspension. Am I going to regret it?

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CH61

Discussion Starter · #2 · Dec 2, 2021

FYI I found info on another Forum. No wrong or right answers. Different opinions depending on what roads you drive and your personnal preferences as far as stance and comfort. For some, ride quality in a sports car is on the bottom of their priority list, even for a daily driver. Personally, after reading this thread (see below), barring concerns about looks of 10 mm or going to the track, I think I will find the car more pleasurable to drive without the PSAM Sport suspension.

Do I need PASM Sport Suspension on my 992 TTS? - Rennlist - Porsche Discussion Forums

Of course, test driving both suspensions would be the right way and probably the ONLY way to answer my question but since that is presently impossible, fellow enthusiasts opinions is helpful. BTW, most of the people on the above said forum where 911 Turbo drivers since it was a TT and TTS thread. How would that apply to a 992 S, I don't know.

Als992

· #3 · Dec 7, 2021

CH61 said:
I have a question regarding the PASM Sport suspension (Lowered 10 mm), an option that just about everybody gets but that I didn't check even if it's part of a "package" and very reasonably priced.. As you know, the PASM is standard on the 992 so that option is just for the 10 mm lowering. So the debate is about the cosmetic and the slight handling improvement vs the decrease in ride comfort. Is the difference in suspension travel worth it? "Everybody" seems to think so. I believe the car will still handle great and be a little more comfortable without the Sport Suspension. Am I going to regret it?

I'll bite. I was wondering the same about PASM. Certainly like the lower look but my chiropractor not so much. Having said that i doubt it's that noticeable a difference and that bone jarring. Really a shame we can't drive anything at the moment cause i don't mind a stiffer suspension but there is a breaking point. For now i'm sticking with it.

CH61

Discussion Starter · #4 · Dec 7, 2021

Thanks @Als992 for jumping in. Hope others also "bite"

and share their experience. Especially those who had the chance to actually drive both suspensions back to back...and on the 992! Because I understand that ALL 992s have stiffer rate springs and improved PASM compared to 991s."Both the standard and sports PASM on the 992 have a much greater dynamic range the previous generation. In other words, it gives a softer, more compliant ride when in normal mode, while also being firmer when pushed in Sports mode." (note the quotation marks).Also PSAM Sport suspension has Stiffer anti-roll bars (front and rear).

I personally think comfort will be the same in comfort mode (for sports car standards) but we'll probably feel the shorter suspensions a little more stiffer in sport mode. Who knows? My concern is that our roads in Quebec are terrible compared to yours in Ontario. Lucky you! LOL!

My other concern is that the SPASM has an extended front spoiler lip that "sticks out forward and even curves a little bit towards the ground". Combined with the Sport design front bumper (if chosen), then the FAL (lift) would be necessary IMO. Hmm...

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CH61

Discussion Starter · #5 · Dec 9, 2021

Porsche 992 SPASM and Sport Design package steep driveway test

Als992

· #6 · Dec 9, 2021

CH61 said:
Porsche 992 SPASM and Sport Design package steep driveway test

Hmmm, that's not even that deep.

CH61

Discussion Starter · #7 · Dec 9, 2021

Als992 said:
Hmmm, that's not even that deep.

My point exactly! So IMO, SPASM + SD = FAL

Waiting for @Farhad Kashani opinion on FAL on another thread.

yrralis1

· #8 · Apr 9, 2022

CH61 said:
I have a question regarding the PASM Sport suspension (Lowered 10 mm), an option that just about everybody gets but that I didn't check even if it's part of a "package" and very reasonably priced.. As you know, the PASM is standard on the 992 so that option is just for the 10 mm lowering. So the debate is about the cosmetic and the slight handling improvement vs the decrease in ride comfort. Is the difference in suspension travel worth it? "Everybody" seems to think so. I believe the car will still handle great and be a little more comfortable without the Sport Suspension. Am I going to regret it?

I would absolutely get it . I used to modify my suspension on former cars . I even. put coil overs on my 997.2 . I felt the regular suspension was floaty . I dont even want that on a Macan . It is standard on a Turbo S . If you want to soften it the PDCC is a magnetic damper . It will feel softer on bumps but firm on flat .

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yrralis1

· #9 · Apr 9, 2022

@CH61 Here is my former 997.2 S dropped on Bilstein Damptronic coil overs . My new car sits higher and is less firm but notably tighter than. my past 991.2GTS which I left stock .

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yrralis1

· #10 · Apr 9, 2022

CH61 said:
Porsche 992 SPASM and Sport Design package steep driveway test

Thats an awful driveway . It would be a house purchase dealbreaker for me even without a 911 . I dont want to get out and feel its a back flip off a mountain ,

Als992

· #11 · 12 mo ago

CH61 said:
Thanks @Als992 for jumping in. Hope others also "bite" and share their experience. Especially those who had the chance to actually drive both suspensions back to back...and on the 992! Because I understand that ALL 992s have stiffer rate springs and improved PASM compared to 991s."Both the standard and sports PASM on the 992 have a much greater dynamic range the previous generation. In other words, it gives a softer, more compliant ride when in normal mode, while also being firmer when pushed in Sports mode." (note the quotation marks).Also PSAM Sport suspension has Stiffer anti-roll bars (front and rear).

I personally think comfort will be the same in comfort mode (for sports car standards) but we'll probably feel the shorter suspensions a little more stiffer in sport mode. Who knows? My concern is that our roads in Quebec are terrible compared to yours in Ontario. Lucky you! LOL!

My other concern is that the SPASM has an extended front spoiler lip that "sticks out forward and even curves a little bit towards the ground". Combined with the Sport design front bumper (if chosen), then the FAL (lift) would be necessary IMO. Hmm...

Now that you've taken delivery are you happy with your choice of suspension? I'm assuming you ended up not getting the lowered sport PASM?

CH61

Discussion Starter · #12 · 12 mo ago

Als992 said:
Now that you've taken delivery are you happy with your choice of suspension? I'm assuming you ended up not getting the lowered sport PASM?

You assume correctly and I’m very happy with my decision. But don’t tell Larry, he might be disappointed with me! LOL!

Aesthetically, I don’t think it looks on « stilts » like some have said on other Forums. I love it. And so far, it’s been mostly city driving on our terrible QC roads so the 992 with PASM but without the lowered suspension seems just right for me.

I will take it on the highway today for some more spirited driving but to be fair the only way to know the difference would be to drive both suspensions back to back. The difference may be minimal but I prefered to take the safe road for all the reasons I mentionnned before on this thread. Maybe it would’ve have been ok with the 10 mm lowered. I’ll never know.

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BobbyG

· #13 · 12 mo ago

CH61 said:
You assume correctly and I’m very happy with my decision. But don’t tell Larry, he might be disappointed with me! LOL!

Aesthetically, I don’t think it looks on « stilts » like some have said on other Forums. I love it. And so far, it’s been mostly city driving on our terrible QC roads so the 992 with PASM but without the lowered suspension seems just right for me.

I will take it on the highway today for some more spirited driving but to be fair the only way to know the difference would be to drive both suspensions back to back. The difference may be minimal but I prefered to take the safe road for all the reasons I mentionnned before on this thread. Maybe it would’ve have been ok with the 10 mm lowered. I’ll never know.

Is it possible to lower the 992 even more? What’s involved and cost??? I wouldn’t mind if it was a bit lower.

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CH61

Discussion Starter · #14 · 12 mo ago

BobbyG said:
Is it possible to lower the 992 even more? What’s involved and cost??? I wouldn’t mind if it was a bit lower. View attachment 741

Definitely a question for Larry!

Als992

· #15 · 12 mo ago

CH61 said:
You assume correctly and I’m very happy with my decision. But don’t tell Larry, he might be disappointed with me! LOL!

Aesthetically, I don’t think it looks on « stilts » like some have said on other Forums. I love it. And so far, it’s been mostly city driving on our terrible QC roads so the 992 with PASM but without the lowered suspension seems just right for me.

I will take it on the highway today for some more spirited driving but to be fair the only way to know the difference would be to drive both suspensions back to back. The difference may be minimal but I prefered to take the safe road for all the reasons I mentionnned before on this thread. Maybe it would’ve have been ok with the 10 mm lowered. I’ll never know.

Your response is pretty much exactly what i thought you'd say! Great that you're happy with your decision as that's all that counts. I'm literally split 50-50 but as you say wouldn't know without driving both back to back...thanks for your input.

Als992

· #16 · 12 mo ago

CH61 said:
Definitely a question for Larry!

I think Larry needs to come see you so you can drive both back to back and report back to me!

CH61

Discussion Starter · #17 · 12 mo ago

Als992 said:
I think Larry needs to come see you so you can drive both back to back and report back to me!

Larry has a GTS which not only comes with a standard lowered suspension but also lots of other « tweaks » so the driving experience might be completely different for other reasons.

I would need to drive Bobby’s car which is a 992 S cab like mine but with the 10 mm lowered suspension! Hello Bobby, I know where you live! LOL! 😜

BobbyG

· #18 · 12 mo ago

CH61 said:
Larry has a GTS which not only comes with a standard lowered suspension but also lots of other « tweaks » so the driving experience might be completely different for other reasons.

I would need to drive Bobby’s car which is a 992 S cab like mine but with the 10 mm lowered suspension! Hello Bobby, I know where you live! LOL! 😜

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