[BobbyG]

Hey Everyone…First time Porsche owner and new to the form!

After what I would say is a lifetime, we are humbled, blessed, and delighted to share our 2023 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S.

Pouring rain and all…we took delivery today, Friday, March 10, 2023 from Porsche Ontario!

Straight on a flatbed to GP for PPF, Ceramic & Tint.

I only drove it on to the flatbed and off the flatbed

Will share more pictures & videos of the process!

Looking forward to everyone’s feedback, ideas and suggestions.

I promised myself no mods but already ordered the clear side markers from Suncoast ha!

Sway, welcome to the forum and congratulations on the 992! Beautiful car and many happy miles. Great group of folks on here with ideas and input. No mods for me, I a stock guy but there is plenty you can do I’m sure.

 

[BobbyG]

We are looking at last week of March as our needs Paint correction

I trust the team at GP because they are meticulous and perfectionists as I am.

But they do have 4 Porsches ahead of mine so it is understandable.

As the saying goes, “Patience is virtue” is what I keep telling myself. Woosaah

It’s awesome when it’s finished though! Here is J-Lo after a monthly wax/boost.

 

[BobbyG]

Your baby is look beautiful!! That red top is just!!!! Flows so well with the red brake calipers.

Do you do this yourself or have someone come or take it to a shop?

First, I was told all cars even straight need some sort of paint correction. My car went straight to PPF and Ceramic and they threw it in at no cost. I asked, “do you think I need it?” They replied that no car even straight from the factory would benefit from some correction. Not the entire car but some areas. I detail my car but I DON’T apply ceramic or PPF. I never wash my car just use the detail stuff they gave me. Hope that helps!

 

[BobbyG]

That’s unacceptable.

The dealership should’ve at least seen and corrected the obvious paint defects like around the filler cap. Fortunately, that’s a easy fix.

Unfortunately the plastic scratches aren’t as easy to fix. Do they look as bad in real life as in the pictures?

I’d be talking to the SA or sales manager and have them help out with the cost to correct the paint. If the plastic is visible from a few feet away we‘d be discussing it as well.

Edit…I would accept that on my new pickup. Maybe even my Macan. I expect better on my 992.

I would add some of that stuff/correction is in the clear coat and usually no big deal and another step in the detail process, that’s how it was explained to me and my tiny brain!

 

[BobbyG]

I am at my computer now . Keep in. mind I am not a pro detail guy .

All I see is slight scuff on the light lens and glass roof . I looked for a good picture to show you how the car arrives . Its wrapped in paper . They tear it off . Those scuffs ought to come right out . I found this. When they tear off the paper its obviously stuck to the car but does not scratch it .

https://www.reddit.com/r/Porsche/comments/11g5bh8
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Oh to go back in time! I’d like to take delivery all over again!

 

[BobbyG]

You may end up going for another round with something Porsche. If not, now you know, it’s going to happen someday.

Nothing anytime soon, my side skirt project for now.

 

[BobbyG]

I first read about my guy on an auto forum in the South Florida section in 2007 . Then it was the shop foreman who mentioned him as being the best in town at my dealership. His name was stated as "El Chino" but that isn't his real name . It's actually Yonny . His story is very interesting . 25 + years ago he worked in a body shop . Originally from Honduras he just worked on the cars until he caught the attention of a billionaire car collector . He noticed a talent and asked Chino to maintain his cars . I know guys here post their garages and mine is a mess but I have never seen anything like that collector's garage . Penthouse vaulted ceiling , air conditioned, hurricane proof, with a collection size of a football field . Some of the older classic cars Chino restored . Chino started finding very wealthy clients . I am beyond small, potatoes . Miami has some serious cars . After about 15 years the guy told Chino its time to get his own place and since he owns building leased him a small nice shop . It even has two lifts so he can get under the car to clean if needed .

In 2008 ceramic wasn't even "the thing" yet. Chino did cars old school with clay bar . When ceramic came out I was originally hesitant . Why mess with something that wasn't broken I thought. He had always done such good work but he convinced me that this was so much easier to maintain . In the long run. it actually costs less .

One of my cars is a 16 year old modded 911 Turbo in regular black . As you know it is the hardest color to maintain . It can swirl even if one breathes on it wrong . Chino maintained it all these years . When ceramic was done the car was 13 years old . It also had a few small, chips as I had never ppf it . When I showed up to pic up the car I found him in a little corner finishing up.
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When I got my 992 GTS I decided to do the PPF . I rarely get chips and have never done the Macan . Chino has two sons . One is finishing Med school but the other wanted to learn Chino's skill . Since he was a little kid he watched his dad and learned . At 18 he began helping and now at 22 he is a master of ppf . He is also extremely talented at ceramic , The two of them combined leave me speechless . When they prepare a car for trade in years later I usually get a higher number because it looks better than when it was delivered .

Here is his son putting PPF on my 992 and the final product. Chino sent me a pic when they are working on it.
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I’ve seen the pics of your black Turbo before and its AMAZING how that car shines…you’re lucky to know someone with that skill set. Since one of the largest Auto Auctions is just a few miles from me, detail shops are all over the place because of the volume of cars being sold. I think its every 28 seconds a car is sold. Anyway, its finding the best quality shop amongst them all. I once had “a guy” referred to me who was highly regarded. They didn’t even return my call! After digging deeper the person who suggested this shop had part ownership so I didn’t use them. I used a shop close to my Dealership who the SA recommended and was also INVITED to the shop, his videos of work and staff…..done deal and so HAPPY I educated myself and did the research.

 

[BobbyG]

The fellow I used, who came highly recommended by several PCA members, said my paint only required polishing prior to PPF/ceramic (as opposed to “correction”/repair). Highly pleased with the quality of work and finished product. I also got a very large discount for not having installed clear side markers. A couple of pics of work in progress. View attachment 2414

Wow! Looks fantastic!

 

[BobbyG]

GP came highly recommended from this Form and Rennlist.

Though they are 15%-20% above market, it is their precision, attention to the small details, quality, experience and finish of their work that made me decide to use their services for our baby.

I will see for myself today and further discuss with them.

Maybe only needs a polish as @BTD suggested.

Thats all they did with my new 992…did not need paint correction. There is NO WAY your brand new car needs paint correction so if they say it does don‘t use them. Just my opinion.

 

[BobbyG]

Hey fells, so I went yesterday afternoon and had a good look. There are swirlies and webbing unfortunately. I believe when it was washed and prepped for delivery to us is when this may have happened. None the less, I have no choice but to get it taken care of. I’m so disappointed because now it adds more time to the car. And it’s been raining every other day here in SoCal…I mean we are in Sunny Cali, where’s our sun..!?!?!! Trying to stay positive here fellas.

Oh well, they should take care of it at no charge. Seems like they are responsible for it. Cold and very windy here in Pa. 40 degrees and 30 MPH winds…just lit 🔥 a fire.

 

[BobbyG]

I predict it will all turn out fine. Your comment on dismal weather made me think of Annie

The Sun'll Come Out Tomorrow
Bet Your Bottom Dollar That Tomorrow There'll Be Sun
Just Thinking About Tomorrow
Clears Away The Cobwebs And The Sorrow 'Til There's None
When I'm Stuck With A Day That's Gray And Lonely
I Stick Out My Chin And Grin And Say
The Sun'll Come Out Tomorrow
So You Gotta Hang On 'Til Tomorrow, Come What May
Tomorrow, Tomorrow, I Love You, Tomorrow
You're Always A Day Away

Stay safe!

Just the ability to name all of those songs from Annie SCARES me! I’m a middle aged guy just trying to keep rock alive! 🎸🎸🎸🤣

 

[BobbyG]

Bad idea to look that up-can't get it out of my head. May need 90 proof medicine….

Cheers to you then!

 

[BobbyG]

What do most people get covered on their cars for PPF? My 718 has front bumper, hood, fenders, rockers, door handles, mirrors and rear bumper/behind the wheel well and back and that seemed like a lot. Is that fairly standard for 992 as well or do people go full PPF? Less?

Thats pretty much standard protection. Get it done before you pick it up!

 

[BobbyG]

I picked up. My GT3 T several weeks ago and had full front and rear PPF Kravaca ceramic pro and then had the rest of the car with the new ION ceramic coating with lifetime warranty. Ive had xpel and other films but the new kravaca is in my opinion superior. At the end of the day you can’t go wrong with any of them. The kravaca just had been updated with the newest technology. These cars taken care of properly are real investments.

I’m no expert on the products but just use something to protect it for sure!

 

[BobbyG]

I never did PPF until this 992 . In fact I did not get it on my 23 Macan . Much depends on where you live and drive (potholes, rocks , a lot of daytime highway ). I did the standard things which you stated above . I did not to the lights . There is mixed opinion on damage from doing the lights (its a debate topic for some). I have yet to have a stone hit my car in 10K miles . Now watch a boulder hit my car today .. just kidding .

Larry, didn’t do headlights either but the installer doesn’t use it there anyway so I didn’t need to make that decision.

 

[BobbyG]

My guy said PPFing lights could cause delamination!!!! Since I have no idea what that is I didn’t argue when he said no PPF on lights.

I think that was mentioned to me but he said discoloration or fogging so maybe the same thing???

 

[BobbyG]

Possibly, or maybe something you need to take blue pills to fix?

Oh man…hope not!

 

[BobbyG]

Same here . I mentioned it on Macan Forum and it ruffled some feathers turning it into a debate . My guy also won't do them anyway .

It might be an old school practice so maybe its not applicable anymore. I’ve never seen PPF applied to headlights.

 

[BobbyG]

Quick update fellas…Tints done. Now we wait for the paint correction then PPF and finally ceramic. The wait continues…

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Looking good Sway!

 

[BobbyG]

Got a love, a white car! It’s simple, understated, and elegant.

I had a white Pontiac Formula Firebird back in the mid eighties. Loved it and felt like a king! Might still have my parachute pants too!