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#41 ·
When I PPF'd my car, the installer said they wouldn't install over the front headlights due to the curvature. Did anyone get PPF installed over their head lights, and if so, how is the install holding up? What brand film was used?
 
#42 ·
obsorbed said:
When I PPF'd my car, the installer said they wouldn't install over the front headlights due to the curvature. Did anyone get PPF installed over their head lights, and if so, how is the install holding up? What brand film was used?
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My installer doesn’t PPF headlights. I’m not sure you would need it.
 
#43 ·
I have had my PPF on my headlights on my 2022 911 Turbo, my wife’s 2022 Cayenne and our 2023 Macan GTS since they were brand new. The dealerships did 2 vehicles but I took the Macan to a dedicated PPF Shop because that dealer did not have PPF expertise in house.

I had the same questions as you - ie. does the PPF cause delamination of the headlights if it is ever removed? Simple answer: no - not if removed by a proper shop with the proper technique.

Sounds like you did not have an interaction with an experienced pro. You should try a better shop, and they will attach the ppf to the headlights for you.
 
#45 ·
drjohnf8 said:
I have had my PPF on my headlights on my 2022 911 Turbo, my wife’s 2022 Cayenne and our 2023 Macan GTS since they were brand new. The dealerships did 2 vehicles but I took the Macan to a dedicated PPF Shop because that dealer did not have PPF expertise in house.

I had the same questions as you - ie. does the PPF cause delamination of the headlights if it is ever removed? Simple answer: no - not if removed by a proper shop with the proper technique.

Sounds like you did not have an interaction with an experienced pro. You should try a better shop, and they will attach the ppf to the headlights for you.
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That is great to know! I will look into it. Thanks!
 
#46 ·
drjohnf8 said:
I have had my PPF on my headlights on my 2022 911 Turbo, my wife’s 2022 Cayenne and our 2023 Macan GTS since they were brand new. The dealerships did 2 vehicles but I took the Macan to a dedicated PPF Shop because that dealer did not have PPF expertise in house.

I had the same questions as you - ie. does the PPF cause delamination of the headlights if it is ever removed? Simple answer: no - not if removed by a proper shop with the proper technique.

Sounds like you did not have an interaction with an experienced pro. You should try a better shop, and they will attach the ppf to the headlights for you.
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Very reputable shop so maybe its regional or shop experience.
 
#48 ·
KM992 said:
I drove my new car home from the dealership to get the PPF installed at my preferred detailer. I got a big rock chip dead centre in the middle of the hood . :mad:

The roads I drive seem to have a lot of small stones. Every used 911 that I looked at was peppered with stone chips, especially on the rear quarters. Protection in that area is even more important than the front IMHO.

I plan to keep this car and it was well worth a couple thousand dollars to me to keep it looking new.
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I feel your pain I picked up my blue 911 it was perfect no chips etc. Brought it home after a week started counting the white chips on the hood from road construction sand. I got the hood xpel film and now taking it back to do the front bumper and rear quarters. Kills me to buy a prestine 911 and within a week it jas chips. I wish someone would have told me aboit the xpel film I would have had the car flat bedded to have it done. I went from having silver 911’s to a dark blue. The silver never showed any road rash. Live and learn
 
#51 ·
Skip the factory wrap. Find a reputable pro in your area that hopefully does wrap,tint, and ceramics under one roof; in particular one that has done a lot of Porsches! Set up appointment before taking delivery of your car. Take your car yourself to wrap shop as soon as possible. Recommend wrapping whole car, including leading edges of mirrors and headlights. Consider double wrap on hips in front of rear wheels. I missed that tip and will do it next time around.Have the ceramics done over entire wrap. Ceramic will close off ends of wrap and keep contaminants out and eliminate edge peel. If possible, have brake calipers and wheels done with ceramics as well. I have black RS Spyder wheels with steels-still have dust, but easy to clean (relatively). Window tint is at your personal discretion. Ceramic perhaps for interior heat reduction? Ceramics provide hard weather barrier, wrap flexible and somewhat self-healing secondary barrier to absorb strikes better. Protect your expenditure on the vehicle. You will be happy with the look. Car practically hoses clean. As everyone here knows, your 992 WILL get hit no matter how careful you are!
 
#52 ·
chilliwilli said:
Skip the factory wrap. Find a reputable pro in your area that hopefully does wrap,tint, and ceramics under one roof; in particular one that has done a lot of Porsches! Set up appointment before taking delivery of your car. Take your car yourself to wrap shop as soon as possible. Recommend wrapping whole car, including leading edges of mirrors and headlights. Consider double wrap on hips in front of rear wheels. I missed that tip and will do it next time around.Have the ceramics done over entire wrap. Ceramic will close off ends of wrap and keep contaminants out and eliminate edge peel. If possible, have brake calipers and wheels done with ceramics as well. I have black RS Spyder wheels with steels-still have dust, but easy to clean (relatively). Window tint is at your personal discretion. Ceramic perhaps for interior heat reduction? Ceramics provide hard weather barrier, wrap flexible and somewhat self-healing secondary barrier to absorb strikes better. Protect your expenditure on the vehicle. You will be happy with the look. Car practically hoses clean. As everyone here knows, your 992 WILL get hit no matter how careful you are!
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Neither ceramic nor PPF nor both will fend off any hit. I accidentally let my Macan rear passenger door gently impact my 911 Turbo S passenger door and now need removal of 911 PPF piece on door, dent repair, maybe touch up ( hard to tell as yet), new PPF, and new ceramic. Who knew how weak the 911 metal is in that area. Certainly i ruined my own day and have some hassle ahead. And the Macan is a tank.
 
#53 ·
That's crappy. Good luck with the fix. Hope it comes out to your satisfaction. Funny how heavy the 992 doors are as a whole, yet from your experience,sounds like outer skin has some weight savings on thickness built in.
 
#54 ·
chilliwilli said:
That's crappy. Good luck with the fix. Hope it comes out to your satisfaction. Funny how heavy the 992 doors are as a whole, yet from your experience,sounds like outer skin has some weight savings on thickness built in.
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I think you are correct. Thanks for the kind words.
 
#57 · (Edited)
Computerglitch said:
Finally picking up my C2 base on Saturday....2 year wait lol
Had to endure the price hikes but still excited to get it!!
Had a couple of Porsches before and never bothered with ppf so might have been lucky with only minor chips.
Have always had ceramic coating and will again.
Just curious whether many others 'risk' the lack of the film?
Any experiences really welcome as I need to make my mind up soon
Many Thanks in advance
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still have a ‘16 M4 that had 3/4 PPF +ceramic done eight years ago. in the interval most of the front bumper PPF has been replaced twice secondary to road rash, each time revealing a couple tiny penetrations easily repaired with DrColorchip. uninvolved PPF (>85%) remains perfect.
of note: after each repair the new PPF matched the original PPF perfectly and still does, no detectable difference.
material: XPEL
installer: ABuffAndBeyond, Millstone NJ
repairs: same

edit: just noticed the date on this post, sorry about that.
 
#58 ·
No problem-I agree with longetivity-I had XPEL w/CQuartz on 3/4 of my 981 Cayman S and had 7 years of clean with minor road rash. Went over Ceramic once with Griot's ceramic spray and touched up nicks with factory color pen (fine brush). If garaged,PPF + Ceramics will go the distance and help maintain value.
 
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